Wait, Wait … Don’t Tell Me! host Peter Sagal Reveals His Long-Hidden Struggles with Depression

Peter Sagal. October 22, 2013. Photo by Andrew Collings.

Sagal’s 7 p.m. Sunday [Nov. 13] talk, ‘Conservations About Mental Health’ at ‘No Shame On U’ Fundraiser Aims to Give Hope and Counter Stigmas

BY SANDRA GUY

Peter Sagal, host of National Public Radio’s popular news quiz program “Wait, Wait … Don’t Tell Me!” is revealing his own personal story about struggling with — and being OK living with — depression.

Sagal grew up in an educated family of second- and third-generation immigrants in Berkeley Heights, New Jersey, where his parents had high expectations of their sons.

“We had every advantage. We were bright,” he said of himself and his two brothers. They benefited from great schools and, for Sagal, top-notch standardized test scores that got him into Harvard College.

But before his successful career as an author, humorist, producer, screenwriter and top-rated NPR show host, Sagal experienced his first struggle with mental health when he was in high school. He developed an eating disorder that led him to lose 20 pounds, leaving 140 pounds on his 5-foot-7” frame.

“I starved myself and started excessively running,” he said. In fact, Sagal ran seven miles a day and refused to eat fats or carbohydrates.

People dismissed the situation, and complimented him on getting in shape.

“I got lucky. I grew out of it,” Sagal said. “I got distracted by having friends and things to do, and even by having a girlfriend.”

And though Sagal continues to exercise obsessively — he says he still feels ‘inflated’ when he skips his daily workout routine — he realizes that exercise becomes problematic when it’s used to cover up a psychic injury or to fill an emotional hole.

“There’s a thin but important line between wanting to improve yourself physically and wanting to destroy yourself physically because you don’t like yourself,” said Sagal, who at age 57, weighs a healthy 180. “It’s a way of coping with a sense of self-loathing.”

The man who charms millions of the Peabody Award-winning “Wait Wait’s” live audience, podcast and radio listeners each week, said he has learned to recognize when he fears or sees the worst in a situation, which leads to “making mountains out of tiny molehills.”

But he also has learned to recognize when he needs professional help.

When his first marriage was dissolving in 2013, just shy of his 19th wedding anniversary and just after his 48th birthday, Sagal said, “I don’t think that I would have been able to make it without medical intervention and regular help.”

He has benefited from taking anti-depressants. And now that he’s expecting his second child in his second marriage, he feels “gifted this chance to do it better the second time around.”

“Damages have been done that cannot be undone,” he said, noting that his divorce involved separating from his three daughters. “For some things in this life, you can’t know until you’ve been through it.”

Sagal is committed to sharing his experience, and he urges others to do so.

“Nobody alive is dealing with something that has never been dealt with by other people. It could be a chronic illness, death of a child, a floundering marriage or an unsatisfactory job.

There are people out there who fixed the marriage or had the courage to end it. They can give advice.

“I don’t think there are any secrets to life, but there is wisdom to be had.”

Sagal’s conversation at 7 p.m. Nov. 13, is part of “No Shame on U’s” annual event, “No Shame – No Stigma.” It takes place at the Holiday Inn North Shore Chicago at 5300 W. Touhy Ave. in Skokie.

To register, click on www.noshameonu.org

General admission is $75 in advance and $85 at the door.  For students, admission is $25 in advance and $30 at the door.

Mental Health Check: How to Be More Resilient, Even if You Think It’s Not in Your Nature

BY SANDRA GUY

As we read the day’s news headlines, we might be tempted to tell ourselves that we simply cannot cope with a life where COVID-19 and its variants seem to be endless.

But experts say you are perfectly capable of staying resilient, even if you think it’s not in your nature.

How? It’s a critically timely question as students and teachers return to the classroom, still wearing masks and socially distanced, and as mental health awareness gets a boost with World Mental Health Day on Oct. 10 and Mental Illness Awareness Week Oct. 3-9.

One key is resilience. First, what does resilience mean? It’s a process of adapting to adversity, trauma, tragedy, threats or significant sources of stress, whether personally or in the workplace.

Resilience is so important because it not only helps you get through difficult circumstances, it also empowers you to grow and even improve your life along the way.

Like building a muscle, increasing your resilience takes time and intentionality, and, much as you’d like to escape it, you will still face distress and difficulty.

Here are ways to stay on top of your best self and, if you need help, know when to ask for it.

  • Find trustworthy and compassionate people who validate your feelings.
  • Accept help and support from people who care about you.
  • Network and stay active in ventures that give you joy and a sense of purpose. That might be civic or faith-based groups or local community social services agencies.
  • Stay vigilant about exercise — daily if possible — as well as eating healthily and getting lots of sleep.
  • Adopt mindful practices such as yoga, journaling or meditation.

Perhaps the most difficult habit is to stop your mind from racing as you jump to the worst possible scenario and then panic.

It may sound old-fashioned, but counting to 10 before you respond to a situation really can let you center yourself. Then, experts say, talk to yourself as you would console a friend or partner, saying something like, “OK, this is a tough situation, but you are strong and resilient. You can deal with this.”

Allow yourself to acknowledge that things change — and they can change for the better. Remind yourself of obstacles you’ve overcome in the past.

That doesn’t mean that you bury or deny negative emotions. We just don’t take a next step of falling down a rabbit hole of despair.

Language plays a big part in staying hopeful. Experts recommend repeating a word or phrase that affirms your values. Or close your eyes and picture the details — the sights, sounds, smells and feelings — of a marvelous memory that makes you feel alive and happy. Give that feeling a name.

Allow yourself permission to get counsel. Psychologists and psychiatrists are widely available on Zoom, and many operate on a sliding-fee scale so that your income determines the fee.

Even as you feel uncertain, repeat meaningful songs, phrases and verses that you know from your past: “The Lord is My Shepherd” or “We Are the Champions” or basketball coach John Wooden’s favorite, “Things work out best for those who make the best of how things work out.”